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'''Saving Throws''' are die rolls used to determine whether magic, poison or various other forms of non-melee attacks are effective against a character or monster.  The actual means by which the attack is minimized or avoided is a source for much contention; this wiki takes the position that success indicates that the defender has dodged, eluded, withdrawn from, escaped, fended off, resisted, overcame, stoop up to or mentally resisted or benefitted from enormous luck that mitigates the effect of the attack.  And that further the potential for escaping such attacks promotes a better game-playing experience.
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'''Saving Throws''' are die rolls used to ascertain the efficacy of non-melee [[Attacking in Combat|attacks]] such as magic, [[Poison (substance)|poison]], or various other forms against a character or [[Monster|monster]].  The specific methods of countering or evading these attacks is a subject of considerable debate.  The rules here presume that a successful saving throw implies that the defender has skillfully evaded, eluded, retreated from, escaped, parried, resisted, conquered, stood up to, mentally resisted, or fortuitously benefited from luck, lessening the impact of the attack.  The danger of such attacks, and success in side-stepping them, enhances the overall game experience.
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To achieve success in a saving throw, threatened characters must roll a result that is equal to or exceeds their [[Experience Level|level]] and [[Hit Dice|hit dice]].  It's well to remember bonuses the character possessed from their [[Character Race Options|race]], [[Character Class|class benefits]], [[Sage Ability|sage abilities]], [[Magic Armour|magical armour]] or other [[Magic Item|devices]], and of course any [[Spellcasting|spells]] in place or that should be put in place before coming into proximity of those attacks addressed by saving throw die rolls.
  
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Four tables are provided that group together specific character classes.  Non-levelled persons and non-magical monsters roll as "fighters;" those monsters that have spell use ability, or natural powers resembling spells, or possess [[Magic Resistance|magic resistance]], should roll as "mages," unless the form of magic more closely relates to clerical or druidical magic.  In cases where a level is indicated, such as the [[Brownie|brownie]], that should be used as the creature's saving throw; otherwise, use [[Hit Dice|hit dice]] as levels.
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The specific saving throw column to be used in the tables below is given as part of a spell or monster's attack description.  In  case of exceptions, use the column that seems most applicable in the situation and try to codify or correct that use afterward.
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|+ Bards, Fighters & Rangers
! Level !! Poison !! Paralyse<br>& Petrify !! Polymorph !! Rod, Staff<br>& Wand !! Breath<br>Weapon !! Other<br>Magic
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! style="width: 60px|Level !! style="width: 60px|Poison !! style="width: 60px|Paralyse & Petrify !! style="width: 60px|Polymorph !! style="width: 60px|Rod, Staff & Wand !! style="width: 60px|Breath Weapon !! style="width: 60px|Other Magic
 
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| '''1-3''' || 15 || 15 || 16 || 15 || 17 || 15  
 
| '''1-3''' || 15 || 15 || 16 || 15 || 17 || 15  
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| '''16+''' || 9 || 10 || 10 || 9 || 11 || 9  
 
| '''16+''' || 9 || 10 || 10 || 9 || 11 || 9  
 
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== Attacks ==
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There are six basic forms of attack that must be saved against, as described below:
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'''Poison.'''  These involve the use of toxins, venoms or other harmful substances to harm a character or creature, whether [[Prepare Ingestive Poisons (sage ability)|ingestive]] or [[Prepare Insinuative Poisons (sage ability)|insinuative]].  The outcome determines whether the target succumbs to the poison or manages to avoid its harmful consequences.
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|+ Assassins & Thieves
 
|+ Assassins & Thieves
! Level !! Poison !! Paralyse<br>& Petrify !! Polymorph !! Rod, Staff<br>& Wand !! Breath<br>Weapon !! Other<br>Magic
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! style="width: 60px|Level !! style="width: 60px|Poison !! style="width: 60px|Paralyse & Petrify !! style="width: 60px|Polymorph !! style="width: 60px|Rod, Staff & Wand !! style="width: 60px|Breath Weapon !! style="width: 60px|Other Magic
 
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| '''1-6''' || 13 || 12 || 14 || 14 || 16 || 15  
 
| '''1-6''' || 13 || 12 || 14 || 14 || 16 || 15  
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| '''20+''' || 9 || 8 || 10 || 6 || 12 || 7  
 
| '''20+''' || 9 || 8 || 10 || 6 || 12 || 7  
 
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'''Paralyse & Petrify.'''  [[Paralysation]] attacks strike at the character's nervous system or general biology in order to immobilise the victim.  [[Petrification]] describes the physical transformation of flesh into another form, most commonly stone, that "freezes" the character and again makes them helpless.  Thus, other attacks that resemble these two should be addressed by this column. 
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'''Polymorph.'''  This describes [[Polymorph Other (spell)|spells that affect others]] or the unwilling transformation of a character or creature into a different shape or form, often altering their physical attributes and abilities.
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'''Rod, Staff & Wand.'''  [[Magic Rod|Rods]], [[Magic Staff|staves]] and [[Magic Wand|wands]] are tools that cast spells, perform enchantments or manipulate magical energies.  These items are typically designed to channel and focus a wielder's desire.  The category would include all attacks by these and other items, such as [[Magic Ring|rings]], [[Artifacts (list)|artifacts]] and various [[Miscellaneous Magic Item|miscellaneous magics]].
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! Level !! Poison !! Paralyse<br>& Petrify !! Polymorph !! Rod, Staff<br>& Wand !! Breath<br>Weapon !! Other<br>Magic
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! style="width: 60px|Level !! style="width: 60px|Poison !! style="width: 60px|Paralyse & Petrify !! style="width: 60px|Polymorph !! style="width: 60px|Rod, Staff & Wand !! style="width: 60px|Breath Weapon !! style="width: 60px|Other Magic
 
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| '''1-4''' || 14 || 12 || 12 || 11 || 15 || 12
 
| '''1-4''' || 14 || 12 || 12 || 11 || 15 || 12
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| '''18+''' || 8 || 8 || 4 || 3 || 7 || 4
 
| '''18+''' || 8 || 8 || 4 || 3 || 7 || 4
 
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'''Breath weapon.'''  These are innate or abilities that enable creatures to unleash powerful and often destructive effects by breathing them forth from the beast's gullet.  The nature of breath weapons varies widely, including fiery breath, poisonous exhalations, freezing blasts and more.  The category loosely includes any widespread attack associated with a creature's biological construction rather than it's magic capability.
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'''Other Magic.'''  Includes all other dweomers, enchantments and magic-like attacks, regardless of the source.  Both area attacks, like [[Fireball (spell)|fireball]], or individual-based effects, such as [[Charm|charm]] spells, are included.
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|+ Clerics, Druids & Paladins
 
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! Level !! Poison !! Paralyse<br>& Petrify !! Polymorph !! Rod, Staff<br>& Wand !! Breath<br>Weapon !! Other<br>Magic
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! style="width: 60px|Level !! style="width: 60px|Poison !! style="width: 60px|Paralyse & Petrify !! style="width: 60px|Polymorph !! style="width: 60px|Rod, Staff & Wand !! style="width: 60px|Breath Weapon !! style="width: 60px|Other Magic
 
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| '''1-4''' || 12 || 11 || 13 || 14 || 15 || 15  
 
| '''1-4''' || 12 || 11 || 13 || 14 || 15 || 15  
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To succeed in a saving throw, the shown rolls must be equalled or bettered by the characters that have been attacked, according to their [[Experience Level|level]] and [[Hit Dice|hit dice]].
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== Game mechanics ==
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Whenever feasible, steer clear of situations in which the failure of a saving throw leads to inevitable death, irrespective of a character's abilities or level.  While it's reasonable that a potent breath weapon could prove fatal to a lower-level character, the rationale behind allowing a saving throw, even for high-level characters, is to instill a sense of fear when facing formidable foes like dragons.  High-level characters, with their enhanced saving throw chances and greater [[Hit Points|hit points]], are less likely to perish from a single attack.
  
Regardless of the type of magic a rod, wand or stave casts, always roll on that column for attacks by these items.
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Gameplay mechanics exist to provide a significant effect upon the narrative, not serve as a means by which the DM can kill characters.  Surviving characters provide a better reaction resulting from a near-death experience than constant actual death, which only breaks the game's continuity with the pointless introduction of new low-level character fodder.
  
Non-magical monsters are counted as fighters.  Magical monsters — those possessing either spells or natural magical abilities — should be treated as mages with their number of hit dice equal to the level indicated. Magical monsters that possess more hit dice than spell levels (such as dragons) should roll according to their best chance of success.
 
  
 
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See Also,<br>
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See also,<br>
 
[[Combat]]<br>
 
[[Combat]]<br>
[[Magic Resistance]]<br>
 
 
[[Saving Throws for Items]]<br>
 
[[Saving Throws for Items]]<br>
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[[The Adventure]]
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[[Category: Reviewed]]

Latest revision as of 22:10, 3 November 2023

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Saving Throws are die rolls used to ascertain the efficacy of non-melee attacks such as magic, poison, or various other forms against a character or monster. The specific methods of countering or evading these attacks is a subject of considerable debate. The rules here presume that a successful saving throw implies that the defender has skillfully evaded, eluded, retreated from, escaped, parried, resisted, conquered, stood up to, mentally resisted, or fortuitously benefited from luck, lessening the impact of the attack. The danger of such attacks, and success in side-stepping them, enhances the overall game experience.

To achieve success in a saving throw, threatened characters must roll a result that is equal to or exceeds their level and hit dice. It's well to remember bonuses the character possessed from their race, class benefits, sage abilities, magical armour or other devices, and of course any spells in place or that should be put in place before coming into proximity of those attacks addressed by saving throw die rolls.

Four tables are provided that group together specific character classes. Non-levelled persons and non-magical monsters roll as "fighters;" those monsters that have spell use ability, or natural powers resembling spells, or possess magic resistance, should roll as "mages," unless the form of magic more closely relates to clerical or druidical magic. In cases where a level is indicated, such as the brownie, that should be used as the creature's saving throw; otherwise, use hit dice as levels.

The specific saving throw column to be used in the tables below is given as part of a spell or monster's attack description. In case of exceptions, use the column that seems most applicable in the situation and try to codify or correct that use afterward.

Bards, Fighters & Rangers
Level Poison Paralyse & Petrify Polymorph Rod, Staff & Wand Breath Weapon Other Magic
1-3 15 15 16 15 17 15
4-7 14 14 15 13 16 14
8-10 12 13 13 12 14 12
11-15 11 12 11 10 13 11
16+ 9 10 10 9 11 9

Attacks

There are six basic forms of attack that must be saved against, as described below:

Poison. These involve the use of toxins, venoms or other harmful substances to harm a character or creature, whether ingestive or insinuative. The outcome determines whether the target succumbs to the poison or manages to avoid its harmful consequences.

Assassins & Thieves
Level Poison Paralyse & Petrify Polymorph Rod, Staff & Wand Breath Weapon Other Magic
1-6 13 12 14 14 16 15
7-11 12 11 13 12 15 13
12-15 11 10 12 10 14 11
16-19 10 9 11 8 13 9
20+ 9 8 10 6 12 7

Paralyse & Petrify. Paralysation attacks strike at the character's nervous system or general biology in order to immobilise the victim. Petrification describes the physical transformation of flesh into another form, most commonly stone, that "freezes" the character and again makes them helpless. Thus, other attacks that resemble these two should be addressed by this column.

Polymorph. This describes spells that affect others or the unwilling transformation of a character or creature into a different shape or form, often altering their physical attributes and abilities.

Rod, Staff & Wand. Rods, staves and wands are tools that cast spells, perform enchantments or manipulate magical energies. These items are typically designed to channel and focus a wielder's desire. The category would include all attacks by these and other items, such as rings, artifacts and various miscellaneous magics.

Illusionists, Mages & Monks
Level Poison Paralyse & Petrify Polymorph Rod, Staff & Wand Breath Weapon Other Magic
1-4 14 12 12 11 15 12
5-8 13 11 10 9 13 10
9-12 11 10 8 7 11 8
13-17 10 9 6 5 9 6
18+ 8 8 4 3 7 4

Breath weapon. These are innate or abilities that enable creatures to unleash powerful and often destructive effects by breathing them forth from the beast's gullet. The nature of breath weapons varies widely, including fiery breath, poisonous exhalations, freezing blasts and more. The category loosely includes any widespread attack associated with a creature's biological construction rather than it's magic capability.

Other Magic. Includes all other dweomers, enchantments and magic-like attacks, regardless of the source. Both area attacks, like fireball, or individual-based effects, such as charm spells, are included.

Clerics, Druids & Paladins
Level Poison Paralyse & Petrify Polymorph Rod, Staff & Wand Breath Weapon Other Magic
1-4 12 11 13 14 15 15
5-8 11 10 12 13 14 14
9-13 9 8 10 11 12 12
14-18 8 7 9 10 11 11
19+ 7 6 8 9 10 10

Game mechanics

Whenever feasible, steer clear of situations in which the failure of a saving throw leads to inevitable death, irrespective of a character's abilities or level. While it's reasonable that a potent breath weapon could prove fatal to a lower-level character, the rationale behind allowing a saving throw, even for high-level characters, is to instill a sense of fear when facing formidable foes like dragons. High-level characters, with their enhanced saving throw chances and greater hit points, are less likely to perish from a single attack.

Gameplay mechanics exist to provide a significant effect upon the narrative, not serve as a means by which the DM can kill characters. Surviving characters provide a better reaction resulting from a near-death experience than constant actual death, which only breaks the game's continuity with the pointless introduction of new low-level character fodder.



See also,
Combat
Saving Throws for Items
The Adventure