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Tao alexis: /* Overbearing against Multiple Persons */

2023-10-25T02:51:12Z

Overbearing against Multiple Persons

Tao alexis: /* Multiple Defenders */

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Multiple Defenders

Tao alexis: /* Multiple Defenders */

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Multiple Defenders

Tao alexis at 02:30, 25 October 2023

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Tao alexis: /* Battle Movement */

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Battle Movement

Tao alexis: /* Battle Movement */

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Battle Movement

Tao alexis: /* Battle Movement */

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Battle Movement

Tao alexis: /* Attack Roll */

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Attack Roll

Tao alexis: /* Movement */

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Movement

Tao alexis: /* Damage */

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Damage

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 [[Crashes & Collisions]]<br>
 [[Charging]]<br>
 [[Unarmed Combat (sage study)]]
 [[Category: Reviewed]]

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 However, suppose that Ewan in 0618 were engaged with yet another combatant, Falen.  If he were so engaged then Ewan could not support Dray against Caitlyn.  Thus, a back rank of combatants are only useful to the front rank if they're not themselves engaged, as they might be if the ranks were "broken" or "[[Flank & Rear Attacks|flanked]]."  If Ewan were so engaged, and Dray were pushed back out of 0518 and into Ewan's hex, then both might be "fouled" as combatants, producing a situation of [[Multiple Defenders in One Hex|multiple defenders in one hex]].
+See also,<br>
 [[Crashes & Collisions]]<br>
 [[Charging]]<br>
-[[Unarmed Combat (sage study)|Unarmed Combat]]
+[[Unarmed Combat (sage study)]]
-[[Category: Lacks Image]]
+[[Category: Reviewed]]

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 == Multiple Defenders ==
-Let us suppose that Dray has a second defender in his hex, "Ewan."  If that were the case, then Caitlyn's success at overbearing would have to
+Let us suppose that Dray is supported by a second defender in 0618, "Ewan."  If that were the case, then Caitlyn's success at overbearing would have to take into account the combined weight of both Dray and Ewan.  As she pressed upon Dray's front, Ewan's able to help maintain his balance and apply pressure from the rear against Caitlyn.  The rule gives good reason for armies entering a fight to approach in "ranks," with a rear line of combatants supporting a front line.
-If Dray in the example above were supported by another combatant already standing in 0618, then the weight of that second combatant (Ewan) would be added to Dray's weight to determine Caitlyn's success at overbearing.  This is because it's presumed that Dray can use the support of a defender in the second rank in order to hold his position.  However, if Ewan were engaged with another attacker, so that he could not commit to supporting Dray's position, then Dray would be pushed into Ewan's hex.
+However, suppose that Ewan in 0618 were engaged with yet another combatant, Falen.  If he were so engaged then Ewan could not support Dray against Caitlyn.  Thus, a back rank of combatants are only useful to the front rank if they're not themselves engaged, as they might be if the ranks were "broken" or "[[Flank & Rear Attacks|flanked]]."  If Ewan were so engaged, and Dray were pushed back out of 0518 and into Ewan's hex, then both might be "fouled" as combatants, producing a situation of [[Multiple Defenders in One Hex|multiple defenders in one hex]].
-Likewise, if there are [[Multiple Defenders in One Hex|multiple defenders in one hex]], then Caitlyn would receive a +2 bonus to hit, but she would have to include the weight of all the defenders in that hex with regards to her success at overbearing.  However, if the defenders have training to act in tandem in that one hex, she would not receive a +2 bonus.  With a successful overbear with two opponents, it's assumed she has cleared the hex, pushing out both defenders.

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-Normally, to achieve this effect, Caitlyn would have to stun
+Normally, to achieve this effect, Caitlyn would have to [[Stun Lock|stun]] Dray, causing at least a quarter of his hit points.  Instead, though she only causes 1-3 damage, regardless of whether or not Dray is stunned, he's forced back.  If he's not stunned, then he's free to attack with his next turn from 0618 — and even, perhaps, overbear Caitlyn in return.
 indicates the movement produced by a successful overbear.  Caitlyn forces herself into pushing him back out of 0518.  Were she not successful, no movement would occur.  If it should happen that the damage done to Dray caused the latter to be [[Stun Lock|stunned]], Dray would not fall back another hex as indicated under those rules.  And if Caitlyn were possessed of multiple attacks, she would be able to roll again to overbear, pushing Dray out of hex 0618.
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+== Multiple Defenders ==
-Because of the amount of movement involved, Caitlyn cannot attempt to overbear ''and'' attack normally in the same round.  A second attack to overbear presumes that the movement out of 0518 and then out of 0618 would all be a single movement over two hexes, not two separate movements.  If the second attack were to fail, then the overbearing movement would stop where indicated.
+Let us suppose that Dray has a second defender in his hex, "Ewan."  If that were the case, then Caitlyn's success at overbearing would have to
 If Dray in the example above were supported by another combatant already standing in 0618, then the weight of that second combatant (Ewan) would be added to Dray's weight to determine Caitlyn's success at overbearing.  This is because it's presumed that Dray can use the support of a defender in the second rank in order to hold his position.  However, if Ewan were engaged with another attacker, so that he could not commit to supporting Dray's position, then Dray would be pushed into Ewan's hex.

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 == Battle Movement ==
-The image below illustrates the outcome of a successful overbear maneuver. In this scenario, Caitlyn presses into Dray's hex, forcibly displacing him from 0518.  If Caitlyn's overbear attempt were unsuccessful and the far left picture would show the end of Caitlyn's turn.  Instead
+The image below illustrates the outcome of a successful overbear maneuver. In this scenario, Caitlyn presses into Dray's hex, forcibly displacing him from 0518.  If Caitlyn's overbear attempt were unsuccessful and the far left picture would show the end of Caitlyn's turn.  Instead, Caitlyn's attack pushes him back into 0618.   She herself then occupies Dray's former hex.
 indicates the movement produced by a successful overbear.  Caitlyn forces herself into pushing him back out of 0518.  Were she not successful, no movement would occur.  If it should happen that the damage done to Dray caused the latter to be [[Stun Lock|stunned]], Dray would not fall back another hex as indicated under those rules.  And if Caitlyn were possessed of multiple attacks, she would be able to roll again to overbear, pushing Dray out of hex 0618.
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 Because of the amount of movement involved, Caitlyn cannot attempt to overbear ''and'' attack normally in the same round.  A second attack to overbear presumes that the movement out of 0518 and then out of 0618 would all be a single movement over two hexes, not two separate movements.  If the second attack were to fail, then the overbearing movement would stop where indicated.

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 When attacking, a d20 is rolled as always.  This is not a conventional attack, however; visualise  two combatants locked in close quarters, pushing against each other while still holding their weapons and shields, rendering their weapons less effective than in a typical attack.  As the table indicates, the attacker's weight is compared to that of the defender and the modifier obtained.
-::::::::::::'''For example''', Derek has a weight of 180 lbs. and wishes to push the 215 lb. Hraggart out of his hex.  Derek is 83.8% of Hraggart's weight, which by the table gives him a penalty of -1 to hit Hraggart's [[Armour Class|armour class]].
+::::::::::::'''For example''', Caitlyn has a weight of 180 lbs. and wishes to push the 215 lb. Dray out of his hex.  Caitlyn is 83.8% of Dray's weight, which by the table gives him a penalty of -1 to hit Dray's [[Armour Class|armour class]].
 Some may wish to account for the "whole weight" of both attacker and defender to be taken into account, including gear, [[Armour List|armour]] and so on.  It can be taken that the combatant's equipment is a detriment rather than a benefit, but this is for the DM to decide.  Obviously, discounting gear enables the calculation to be made more swiftly, simplifying the action in combat.

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 Some may wish to account for the "whole weight" of both attacker and defender to be taken into account, including gear, [[Armour List|armour]] and so on.  It can be taken that the combatant's equipment is a detriment rather than a benefit, but this is for the DM to decide.  Obviously, discounting gear enables the calculation to be made more swiftly, simplifying the action in combat.
-== Movement ==
+== Battle Movement ==
 The image below indicates the movement produced by a successful overbear.  Caitlyn forces herself into Dray's hex, pushing him back out of 0518.  Were she not successful, no movement would occur.  If it should happen that the damage done to Dray caused the latter to be [[Stun Lock|stunned]], Dray would not fall back another hex as indicated under those rules.  And if Caitlyn were possessed of multiple attacks, she would be able to roll again to overbear, pushing Dray out of hex 0618.

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	Some may wish to account for the "whole weight" of both attacker and defender to be taken into account, including gear, [[Armour List\|armour]] and so on. It can be taken that the combatant's equipment is a detriment rather than a benefit, but this is for the DM to decide. Obviously, discounting gear enables the calculation to be made more swiftly, simplifying the action in combat.		Some may wish to account for the "whole weight" of both attacker and defender to be taken into account, including gear, [[Armour List\|armour]] and so on. It can be taken that the combatant's equipment is a detriment rather than a benefit, but this is for the DM to decide. Obviously, discounting gear enables the calculation to be made more swiftly, simplifying the action in combat.
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−	~~== Damage ==~~
−	Because weapons and contact still occur, the amount of damage done if the attacker successfully overbears is 1-3, regardless of the weapon used. Bonuses from [[Strength (ability stat)\|strength]], [[Critical Hits & Fumbles\|critical hits]], [[Magic Weapon\|magical weapons]] and [[Spellcasting\|spells]] continue to apply.
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−	~~Attackers with multiple attacks cause 1-3 damage each time they successfully hit.~~

	== Movement ==		== Movement ==